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Archive for June, 2009

Will killing commission kill financial advice?

There’s a worrying possibility that the FSA is about to kill off independent financial advice in the UK for all but the wealthy. I do hope I’m wrong.

It’s just confirmed plans of its Retail Distribution Review which, in a nutshell, means from 2012 Independent Financial Advisers will have to charge a fee rather than simply take their cash from commission.

Its valiant aim is to get rid of ‘commission bias’, where some IFAs are more prone to recommend products that give them higher commission.

Therefore, it may surprise you that I’m worried it’s a bad move, especially as most personal finance journalists tend to be in favour. I should note, this isn’t a core subject for me, so I’ve only read summaries of the proposals rather than word for word, but the gist is plain…

Setting the scene.

For those who don’t know, let me explain how it already works. This is taken from my financial advice guide, so you’ll be unsurprised to see the viewpoint I took when writing that starts to draw you along the path of this argument.

IFAs are… “paid in two ways, by fees or commission, and by law they are required to give you the option of either. While most journalists are very pro-fees and berate commission-based advisers, I believe both systems have merits.

  • Fees. Here they charge a flat hourly fee for their advice. Standard fees range from £75 to £250 per hour depending on where you live and what kind of advice you need. Make sure you ask in advance and compare costs.

    The great advantage of fees-based advice is there’s less incentive for advisers to bias their advice according to how much commission they’ll make, as they should pay any commission earned back to you – either in the form of a rebate or a boost to any plan (always ask and check this is happening).

    Plus, if you’re making a large investment or pension, then you’re definitely better off paying a fixed fee rather than commission, as commission increases with the size of the investment.

  • Commission. Advisers paid commission may seem to be giving advice for free, but over the long run they tend to make more money this way than by charging a fee upfront. Some plans can be extremely profitable and will make advisers a large amount of money. As an example, a typical upfront commission paid on a £30 a month level term life assurance policy for 25 years would be £600.

    The proof that commission impacts advice is that companies deliberately market increased commission rates to IFAs. If advice was never biased, then the rate of commission wouldn’t make any difference, yet product providers know that if they up the commission rate, they’re more frequently recommended.

    However, the commission route still has its merits. While there will be some bias, the legal obligation to give good advice means advisers tend to tweak at the fringes rather than give downright poor information. And the big advantage is that as you won’t need to stump up the cash each time, you’ll be less scared to seek help when needed; thus will continue to get retained advice. “

What’s the problem?

I’m not convinced most people will want to pay for advice. The commission route has the advantage that you don’t pay a fee each and every time you want information; you can go without the worry of laying out cash.

The advent of fee-only is likely to mean fewer people seeking advice and those that do may go for it less often to keep the fee down.

While in principle I support the FSA’s stance, in practice, I think it could be a nightmare from which we may not recover. I think I prefer the idea of people not getting perfect advice due to slight commission bias, than not getting advice at all.

Of course, it is also talking about systems whereby the commission is recouped up to a set fee, which is better – but still psychologically there is the danger here that people don’t want to pay an hourly fee in any system – it just looks too expensive.

The Real Nail in the Coffin.

What I find most galling though is that bank-based advisers – those primarily responsible for PPI misselling, endowment misselling, investment misselling and generally poor advice all round are still to be allowed to be remunerated based on the number of sales.

So bank advice, which as they can only look at a limited number of products, will become known as “restricted advice” (though it’s often far closer to sales tactics than advice) will be free and commission remunerated; yet you’re going to have to pay a fee to get a cross-market comparison. This seems to me a bias in totally the wrong direction.

Comment and Discuss.

When is misselling mis-consuming? Can you be missold every month for 10 years?

This is quite a staggering story – I’d love to know where your sympathies lie!

A friend texted to say he was outraged with his bank, and could I help. Normally I tend to say check the website, but he said this one was different, so I asked him to send me a brief email.

His complaint.

Since 2000 he’s had a packaged current account, one where you pay a fee each month. Originally it was for £6 a month and now it’s £13.

That’s over a GRAND’s worth of fees!

Yet he’s only just discovered this and is furious with his bank as he doesn’t remember agreeing to it – they say he did when it was first set up, and sent letters when the fee was increased. The reason he’s not noticed is he doesn’t check his statements; he relies on cash machine balances to see what’s there and (I presume) doesn’t look at the letters either.

Is it misselling or mis-consuming?

I was flabbergasted when I read this. While if the bank signed him up without permission that’s outrageous – not noticing for nine years is pretty stark too. This is someone with a good job – a professional person – so there are no literacy or numeracy issues here. (If this rings alarm bells with you – I’d take an immediate look at the Direct Debit Audit guide).

While with things like PPI misselling or foreign exchange loading the charges are hidden, here they’re transparent and you have a choice.

If we assume the bank didn’t actually ask for permission – is it still fair to pursue a misselling case if you’ve never noticed in all these years?

Comment and Discuss

Do the law lords declare an interest?

A bit of lawyer humour on bank charges… spotted in the New Law journal “Civil Way” column.

Law lords declare an interest

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Savings fountain HSBC… nifty idea… shame about the products

One kind MoneySaver popped me an email to suggest that HSBC was now using our Savings Fountain concept in its adverts.

The fountain idea is simple: as the highest paying after-tax savings products such as cash-ISAs or regular savers allow different amounts in them, it’s all about filling up the top product then letting the rest overflow.

And lo and behold it is, here’s a screen grab…

HSBCSavingsFountain

I first came up with this analogy more than five years ago (you can see it explained here – savings fountain) and have broadcast on it many times often using a champagne fountain as a prop.

Whether this was a spontaneous similar idea or it’s been in their pot for years I don’t know, and as you can’t copyright ideas, we’ll just look at the old adage “imitation is the greatest form of flattery”.

The only problem with HSBCs lovely graphic is the fountain is about using the best-buys, whereas HSBC’s just chosen its own products – far from top players.

So if you want to do the fountain first use the top cash ISA, then top regular savings, then top savings account. Sadly HSBC don’t appear prominently in any of those.

Comment and Discuss.

Why Martin Lewis’ is correct grammar!

It staggers me quite how many grammar fiends take the time to e-mail about the apostrophe in ‘Martin Lewis’ MoneySavingExpert.com’ in the site logo, arguing it should be ‘Martin Lewis’s’.

So it’s time to blog on it, so we can simply link here every time we get a complaint. While you may not agree, at least it shows we’ve thought about it.

MSE Judy’s grammar masterclass

My own spelling and grammar leave a lot to be desired – one of the reasons I originally chose to be a broadcast rather than a print journalist. So to take this further, I’m handing over to MSE Judy, a confirmed member of the Eats, Shoots and Leaves brigade, to go through the grammar issues:

“It’s grammar purists who would say technically our logo is incorrect, and this method is only acceptable for classical names, such as Niklas. But language evolves, and many now tend to ignore the ’s’ after the apostrophe.

“Check out Wikipedia’s take on best practice:

If a singular noun ends with an /s/ or a /z/ sound (spelled with -s, -se, -z, -ce, for example), practice varies as to whether to add ’s or the apostrophe alone. A widely accepted practice is to follow whichever spoken form is judged better: the boss’s shoes, Mrs Jones’ hat (or Mrs Jones’s hat, if that spoken form is preferred). In many cases, both spoken and written forms differ between writers.

The Times Guide to English Style and Usage (1999) also says:

Beware of organisations that have apostrophe variation as their house style, e.g., St Thomas’ Hospital, where we must respect their whim.

“And while you could argue that even on pronunciation it’s wrong, far more important is that the extra ’s’ looks hideous in the logo, and with language being fluid, both arguments are quite strong.”

Self-definition is crucial

As Judy rightly says, the logo does look awful with the extra ‘s’, and that’s a key reason for not doing it. Ultimately, whatever the grammar situation, this is arguably a branding and design issue. In which case, grammar is firmly relegated. Just ask eBay, iTunes or npower.

Comment and Discuss (I’m sure you will!)

How do you buy British in banking?

Following on from my last blog about Is ICICI an Indian bank?, I was interested to read the forum discussion. There Fudge 1977 was one of many to voice the following sentiment:

“With the push to ‘buy British’, maybe you could just highlight British owned banks when referencing them.

I’m buying british where I can do which isn’t xenophobic or whatever, it just keeps people in jobs which is good for our economy. Yes, it can cost me more sometimes but I guess it’s just a moral dilemma….”

Putting aside whether you’re in favour of this (it could equally be argued there are countries in the world who need our support more than we do), what interests me is the concept of a British Bank.

Certainly it’s nowhere near as easy to define as you’d think; in a world of international global capital what counts?

Some examples of foreign British Banks…

All the following UK registered banks could be defined as overseas.

  • Abbey: Owned by Spanish based Bank Santander.
  • Alliance & Leicester: Owned by Spanish based Bank Santander.
  • Bradford & Bingley: Owned by Spanish based Bank Santander.
  • Clydesdale Bank: Owned by the National Australian Banking Corporation.
  • Egg: Owned by US banking giant Citibank.
  • HSBC: Floated in the UK but ultimately the “Hong Kong Shanghai Banking Corporation” so Chinese now.
  • Post Office Savings: Owned by the Bank of Ireland, not covered by the UK financial services compensation scheme (see Safe Savings).
  • Yorkshire Bank: Owned by the National Australian Banking Corporation.

Comment and Discuss

The best worst shop slogan… can you beat TK Maxx?

I’ve just spotted the most terrible promise in a shop window and wonder if you can beat it…

In the Money Diet, I write through a large explanation of what different shop slogans actually mean, but the following really is absolutely meaningless…

In TK Maxx shop window
“Always up to 60% less”

Lets just examine the words:

  • 60% less than what? A discount of 60% is a good one, but here it doesn’t actually state what the discount is off. This isn’t a sale – it’s not a reduction in price. Regular shoppers will get the message that this is off the list price, but the lack of specification or small print means actually it’s pretty irrelevant.
  • It’s an ‘up to’? Yet this isn’t even a discount of 60%, it’s got the killer “up to” in front of it, so the discount is anything from 0% to 60%; in other words it means nothing. While I’m not suggesting TK Maxx does this… if you had 3,999 goods at full price and 1 at 60% off, this slogan would still fit.
  • What on earth does ‘always’ mean? The real doozy here is the use of the word ‘always’. It is a completely flaccid phrase that adds nothing and doesn’t change the meaning a jot. To say ‘always up to’ is an oxymoron, it simpy doesn’t make sense. Of course the marketers intent to impart the feeling of consistent discounting – but it doesn’t really mean it.

Don’t get me wrong, actually TK Maxx is a good shop for those who want cut cost branded goods, and I know many MoneySavers like it. Yet as a phrase, awful!

Spotted any worse?

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Is ICICI an Indian Bank… do xenophobic overtones hurt its custom

ICICI is a massive Indian bank, but on this site we’re only ever referring to its fully UK owned and regulated UK savings subsidiary that has exactly the same protection as any other UK savings institution (see savings safety). Yet this is what I wrote in this week’s e-mail…

New top fixed savings. Lock-in at 4.35% for 2 yrs or 4.07% for 18 mths. Updated Article
Fixed savings rates are on the up, with the best 2-yr fixes beating instant access by over 1% point; though you sacrifice access to the cash. 2-yr Fixes. UK subsidiary of Indian bank ICICI* (min. £1,000) is now joined by private bank Rothschild* at 4.35% AER (min. £20,000) Shorter Fixes: Building soc. Stroud & Swindon pays 4.07% AER until Nov 2010 if (min. £2k), while for a year National Counties is 3.91% (min. £20k) and ICICI* 3.75% (min. £1k). How safe? ALL these accounts have the full UK protection for up to £50,000 per person, per financial institution. Is it worth it? Most economists predict rates will stay very low into 2010, but after that who knows. If rates rise, fixed money is locked away, so you could lose out especially on longer fixes. FULL info, more options and instant access best buys in the Updated Guide: Top Savings Related: Savings Safety, Fixed Savings, Cash ISAs

Fascinatingly, I’ve just learned the link to Rothschild bank was massively more popular than the one to ICICI. Now some of this may be because Rothschild is a new product and therefore some people will already be up to their safe savings limit in ICICI, but I suspect the majority is due to the phrase “UK subsidiary of Indian bank”, even though later we explain that it has the same protection.

This has made me question whether it’s fair to mention ICICI’s Indian origins. When we write about Abbey or Alliance and Leicester we don’t write “UK subsidiary of Spanish Bank…” Actually the only other time I can think we currently mention it is for ING Direct which is Dutch, but then it does matter, as unlike ICICI it is not part of the UK compensation scheme.

While ICICI has had some worry over its stability (thankfully it seems to have diminished), it’s not its ‘Indianess’ that causes worry, no more than those Building Societies with stability worries have them because they’re British. And in all cases the protection is the same.

So I’d love your views, is it time to drop ICICI’s Indianess… as it unfairly puts people off?

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The new MSE weather prediction service

Having just been away in the sun for a few days, I’ve discovered MoneySavingExpert.com has a bespoke new service for nerds, which even I hadn’t been told about. Quite remarkably, the site can now predict British Weather.

I first noticed the phenomena a couple of weeks ago, when between 1,200 and 1,700 people joined the email over the weekend, by far the lowest for any weekend this year. Now I decided this couldn’t be to do with the fact it was my wedding weekend, but instead to do with the hot weather.

After that we nipped away for a few days in the sun, yet first Thur then more so on Friday the number of sign-ups was much higher than the prior week, so without checking I sent the following nerdy email to my team:

“I thought I would try to predict that the weather yesterday was dreary and today is poor.

How? The only information i’m using is the number of sign-ups to the email list, which has been quite a bit higher the end part of this week than last week. While some is probably down to the great Tesco code in the Right Hand Side bar – I suspect the weather plays a big part.”

And indeed the rather disconsolate message came back that after the prior weekend’s sun, it was indeed now peeing it down.

So it seems, for obvious reasons, there’s a direct correlation between the number of people joining the distribution list for the weekly e-mail and the weather. If you’d like to use this new service you can see the number so far each day yourself in the stats section, bottom left of the home page. Then again, you may find this link even more useful.

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