Student loans will be interest free for many 2012 starters

Student loans will be interest free for many 2012 starters

Student loans will be interest free for many 2012 starters


On principle I hate the fact 2012 uni starters aren’t just going to pay for their education, but for financing it too. For the first time students will be charged ‘real’ interest rates.  This may seem a contradictory start to a blog promising interest free loans, but that’s because, yet again with student finance, principle and practice diverge.

On Monday university application figures are released. Almost certainly they’ll have dropped (though not all will be due to fee fear). One of parents’ key concerns is the interest cost. Yet in reality, a sizeable chunk of graduates in lower-earning professions will not only find their interest set near the rate of inflation, but won’t ever actually need to repay that interest.

Unless you know the system, to make this easier to understand, you’ll find it helps if you first read my detailed Student Loans 2012 myth busting guide. But even if you don’t, you should still get a rough idea from what’s below.

Student loan interest rates

For current graduates the maximum interest rate possible is the RPI measure of inflation, though the rate for most students is much lower than that (see the Should I repay my student loan? guide for details of who pays what).

That means there’s no ‘real’ cost to these loans. If you borrow an amount of cash that’d buy "a shopping trolley’s worth of goods", you repay whatever it costs to buy the same "shopping trolley’s worth of goods" in the future. In other words, borrowing the cash doesn’t alter your spending power.

The 2012 system works rather differently…

  • While studying: Interest = RPI inflation + 3% until the April after graduation when it changes to…
  • Graduates earning under £21,000: Interest = RPI inflation.
  • Graduates earning £21,000 – £41,000: Interest = Rises from RPI to RPI + 3%
  • Graduates earning £41,000+: Interest = RPI + 3%.

So the rate is certainly much higher – and as I said earlier – personally I object to ‘real’ rates on principle, yet…

The reality is some students won’t pay it

The amount 2012 starters will repay is dependent primarily on their graduate earnings – for 30 years you pay 9% of everything earned above a threshold which will be £21,000 at first, but will rise with average earnings after. That is far more important for many than the amount they originally borrow.

What that means is many graduates won’t repay what they owe in full before the debt wipes out after 30 years and, at a lower level of earnings, many won’t ever repay what they originally borrowed. I’ve plugged these numbers into www.studentfinancecalc.com where you can work out how much you’ll repay (you can see the mathematical assumptions used to calculate this there too).

Starting salary (then annually rises by RPI =3%)

3 years worth of fees and maintenance loans

Total repayment
(at today’s prices)

Real interest cost (ie, in today’s prices)

£15,000

£43,500

£0

-£43,500

£20,000

£43,500

£7,200

-£36,300

£25,000

£43,500

£24,900

-£18,600

£30,000

£43,500

£43,000

-£500

£40,000

£43,500

£79,000

£33,500

£50,000

£43,500

£67,400

£23,900

As you can see in this table, the only people who pay interest are those on starting salaries above £30,000. Though take the actual numbers with a pinch of salt as the assumptions make a big difference – it’s more the general point that the interest rate only actually impacts on the repayments of some.

Also remember the table assumes people are working for the whole 30 years before the debt wipes – many (especially women) will take some time off during that period, which reduces repayments further.

Though of course for higher earners, it shows the interest can be huge too.

If you’re wondering why those at £50,000 pay less than at £40,000, it’s simply because as they earn more, they repay more quickly, so less interest accrues.

Now of course that doesn’t make it more favourable than the current system – where many more repay all that’s borrowed, because of course the price has shifted higher – but it does mean the fear of the interest at least does need to be mitigated for many students.

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Why I confidently predict this recession won’t be as ‘severe’ as the last

Why I confidently predict this recession won't be as 'severe' as the last

Why I confidently predict this recession won't be as 'severe' as the last

I normally say I don’t do predictions, so you may be surprised to see me putting my neck on the line in such a way. Yet I haven’t suddenly bought a crystal ball or grown cahoonas the size of an ox, this is a natural conclusion on the back of the political spin of recession maths…

A recession is strictly defined as two successive quarters of negative growth – in other words, the economy shrinking for half a year. Yesterday it was announced we’d had one quarter down 0.2%, so even though it’s down, unless we get another one – it’s not yet a recession – but the general feeling is it will be.

Yet just think about this definition for second. A ‘recession’ isn’t about how things feel, the perception of economic affairs, it’s about whether things are good or bad. Politicians can rightly say we’re not in recession even when many are feeling the pain.

Look at this table below – I’ve designed  a ridiculously extreme example of how the definition may not reflect the real picture:

 

Technically not a recession year

Technically a recession year

1st quarter

Economy up 0.1%

Economy up 10%

2nd quarter

Massive crash – down 20%

Things plateau – down 0.1%

3rd quarter

Things stabilise – up 0.1%

Slight downturn – down 0.4%

4th quarter

Double dip – down 20% again

Recovery – up 10%

Total annual growth

Down 36%

Up 20%

The definition of recession also explains why over the last couple of years even though the economy has been teetering, technically we’ve not been in recession. Back in 2008 I confidently predicted that – not out of any prescience, just due to the simple maths (see my Recession will end soon: the joy of maths blog).

Why this recession is unlikely to be as severe as last time

I’ve already seen one headline of "this recession won’t be as bad as 2007/8" and indeed it’s almost certainly accurate, but quite meaningless.

Our economy contracted substantially back then and has never recovered, we’re still in the mire, we’ve just had stagnant or minor growth for a few years. Thus we’re not going to fall much now as there isn’t that far too fall – unless we have catastrophic economic collapse (let’s hope not eh?).

The fact this recession won’t be as steep isn’t the same as saying it won’t be bad. Recession is all about momentum – which is how fast things are moving, and doesn’t factor in the overall economy. 

Take a driving analogy, if you accelerate to 80 mph then slow to 79mph you may’ve slowed down but you’re still going fast.   

Yet with our economy we were travelling at 70mph, in 2007 we slowed to 60mph and aren’t going much faster now, so if we drop to 58mph now, while we haven’t slowed down as much as in the last recession – we’re still going far slower than we were when this all started.

Not everybody is struggling

If you’re reading this as a doom and gloom blog, please don’t. In many ways the message is we’re already in it, so hopefully it won’t get much worse.   

Yet even in a recession you can’t draw too many conclusions on what it means for individuals. I’ve corrected a good few interviewers in recent times who’ve asked me: "everyone is struggling, what should we do?"   

Of course ‘everyone’ isn’t struggling, there are still many with good jobs, getting pay rises, with savings, no debts, and possibly low rate tracker mortgages. You only need to see this How much are you worth? 2012 poll result to see that.

The key to recession is ‘more people than usual are struggling’, with many feeling income squeezes, costs on the up, benefits dropping and worries about job security. It’s crucial to address those issues, but still we must be careful not to start seeing our economy as a blanket of individuals with a homogenised financial situation.

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“MoneySavingExpert: a stronger brand than iTunes”

MoneySavingExpert: a stronger brand than iTunes

MoneySavingExpert: a stronger brand than iTunes

Here at MSE Towers, we’re a little gobsmacked after reading new research about ‘brand strength’. We don’t really think of the site as a brand and we don’t deliberately try and cultivate that image, but it seems we have become one without trying.

I was first alerted when someone emailed a Scotsman article based on a YouGov poll on UK-wide brand strength based on quality, value and customer satisfaction. The piece stated:

"In the online category, Martin Lewis’s Money Saving Expert website beat off competition from global names such as iTunes to take the top spot, while internet phone service Skype was rated higher in the telecoms category than providers such as BT and Orange."

Then there was the Buzz Index index (which I think is separate) which put us at number 8 after recent positive feedback on brands:

  1. Amazon
  2. M&S
  3. BBC
  4. Google
  5. John Lewis
  6. Apple
  7. Sainsbury’s
  8. Money Saving Expert
  9. Cathedral City
  10. Waitrose

The contrast between MSE and the other brands is rather interesting. We’ve less than 40 staff, the others are, I suspect, in the 1,000s or 10,000s. We don’t have a brand manager or consultants, we just focus on trying to save people some money.

I’m sure some people within the branding industry would be able to explain why the MSE brand works, dissecting it to the nth degree, but actually I think I’m probably better off not knowing.

It makes me fearful of change

It does put me in two minds about our recent masthead change. My cherished garish green has gone and been replaced by a much classier and more professional looking masthead. But will the fact it no longer feels so homespun and personal impact people’s perception?

Then again, as I wrote a couple of weeks ago when we first launched the new homepage, the fact is we are now at a point where people know what we stand for. I hope we can keep improving the navigation and look of the site, without people feeling we’ve changed MSE’s ethos (we certainly haven’t).


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A40 speed limit: is TFL incompetent or misleading?

A40 speed limit: is TFL incompetent or misleading

The Westway route just out of central London (to Shepherds Bush) is a three lane dual carriage way flyover, so there are no pedestrians. Last February the speed limit was cut from 50mph to 30mph.

Apparently this was due to repairs and speeding. However, after a few complaints, and even a mention on Top Gear, it was increased to 40mph last May. At the time, according to this article in the Fulham & Hammersmith Chronicle, TFL were considering increasing the speed limit again:

They say it should be back to 50mph by late summer [2011].”

Well last summer is a long time ago and still no sign. There are still 30mph speed limit signs on the road, with 40mph printed in a difficult to read manner over the top.

As I wrote in my initial new 30mph limit on A40 Westway is dangerously slow blog, the road is a nightmare for two-wheeled drivers like myself. If you try and stick to the speed limit, you are overtaken by cars going far faster, who see you as a menace going at slow speed. While this is better with a 40mph limit, there are still problems.

As my first blog was a small contributor to instigating coverage over this issue, I’ve deliberately written this again to do the same and remind TFL that those of us who drive regularly on this road haven’t forgotten the promise. TFL, either you’re ridiculously inefficient, or this was a cunning plan to hope we’d get used to it – which is it?


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The New New MSE Masthead – your thoughts please

Last week I blogged about our proposed new masthead for the site and other changes (see New Masthead blog). After all your feedback, we’ve been working on some improvements, and before we go live I’d love your feedback.

The ‘new’ masthead (see below for the new new one)

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While most of the feedback was good, there were a few issues which we’ve tried to address below:

  • My shirt colour too bland: In many ways this was a deliberate choice of pic, as I don’t want to dominate the site. I’ve been reducing my head size gradually over the years and would love to get to the stage where it’s not there anymore, but as many of the searches for the site involve my name and people get confused with other sites, it’s important it stays. Yet we’ve upped the colour level a bit in photoshop.
  • The Forum Button: It’s a lot more prominent now and has both a direct click and a menu dropdown option.
  • The ‘You look like a comparison site’ issue: MSE has always had a homely or even homemade feel. We feel it’s right to get rid of some of that flavour for clean lines, for easier browsing and navigation. Yet of course that means we follow more of a standard path.

    Some people pointed this out and said we’d lose the charm that comes from garishness and quirkiness by doing so. I think there’s some truth in that. Thus, much to my designer’s dismay, I asked for a slightly jarring, clashing element that’s reminiscent of our old ‘consumer revenge’ stance and which shows the true flavour of the site, to go back in. That’s where the deliberately slightly clunky placard comes from.


As for the folded arms photo – it was a bit like marmite to people, so we’ve decided to go for it to see if it works.

The new new masthead

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Sneaky preview of the new MSE masthead – what do you think of m’pic?

The green masthead’s on its last legs, we’re in the process of a gradual redesign and a big element of this is the new masthead. It’s prime real estate on the site as it’s on every single page, so before we go for it, I’d love your views…

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We’ve a few tweaks to make on exactly what goes where (the forum button needs to be more prominent), yet this is the overall look we’re going for.

There’s been much debate in MSE Towers about whether the picture with folded arms means business, or is defensive – overall, while I’m not so keen, the team think it’s a winner. We wanted to try something a bit different going for a very casual picture as the site is being smartened up and losing it’s done in a bedroom style – the aim of this pic is to keep something of the informality.

We’ve even had discussions about whether the colour of my shirt is right and whether it’s ironed enough (we can deal with the first in Photoshop, though this version is un-tweaked).

So I’d love your views. Do you like the overall image of the new masthead? Does the picture convey a friendly enough image – or would a closer up picture be better? Let me know what you think (be gentle).


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Prospective students no longer so scared of £9,000 fees

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Prospective students no longer so scared of £9,000 fees

I got a bit stumped on Thursday on the weekly Consumer Panel hour I do on Radio 5. The subject was the new up to £9,000 fees for new student starters in 2012, on the back of applications closing Sunday (yesterday now). There were three prospective students on, so I was poised to rebut the usual misunderstandings but each when asked said something akin to: ‘No, I’m not worried about the fees, I was at first, but I’ve done the reading on them and it’s not as bad as I thought’.  

While it left me slightly stumped on what to say; it was music to my ears. This isn’t the first anecdotal indication that the message seems to be getting out there. Those who don’t religiously read this blog (tsk tsk ;) ) may not know I head up the Independent Taskforce on Student Finance Information.

I was appointed to it not long after berating politicians that if they were going to change the system, they at least needed to explain to students how it worked (see taking on a taskforce blog). The group is independent of government and has Universities UK, UCAS and the National Union of Students, amongst others, on the core committee. The aim is to give apolitical info on how the new system will work.

With very limited resources our primary focus has been to explain how it works to potential students, their teachers and parents – rather than wider society.   

And I do think some headway has been made. Many 6th formers (or equivalents), have a much better idea of how the system works (note we’re now switching to part time and mature students as their applications close later) and seem to be less panicked about it than society in general.

Free resources

To do this, as well as having a ‘student finance day’ in November, we’ve loads of resources out there…

  • The apps: The "Uni Fees 2012" app we have for iPhones and Android.
  • Info for teachers: We’ve sent a teachers’ guide to every school in the UK, and downloadable teaching lesson plans to help teachers work through the various issues with the students
  • 6th former guide: Deliberately written to target younger prospective students with less experience of finance, the 6th formers’ student finance guide has been hugely requested by schools (as well as downloaded a lot by parents).
  • Parents guide: Often it’s parents more than their off-spring who are more panicked, so there’s also a parents’ guide to student finance 2012, which runs through the important things parents need to know.
  • Student finance calculator: This student finance calculator was built by the MSE team to help try to answer the ‘how much will it cost me?’ question.
  • 20 things you need to know: The student finance 2012 guide is my original guide that the others are based on, and hopefully it covers everything that anyone else would want to ask too.

Of course we’re not the only ones doing this – there’s official info from the Government and the Student Loans Company too – though, biased as I am, I think ours is in a different league to the more constrained messages in those guides.  

Will applications fall?

What will be interesting now, will be to see the result on applications overall. Earlier in the year they were down double digits. I hope to see that drop lessened substantially when the actual figures come out on 30 January. 

They will be down a few percent due to demographic changes and the fact some students rushed through the gates last year to beat the fee hike, but I hope and suspect it won’t be as drastic as was originally feared.  

That’s not to say every student should go to university, just that they need to understand the true cost even with the much criticised hikes in fees, not the fear laden invective we’ve seen in some newspapers trying to grab headlines. After all, if you don’t understand the cost, how can you make a rational decision on the value?

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Energy price cuts – was it wrong to fix?

Energy price cuts - were you wrong to fix?

Energy price cuts - were you wrong to fix?


Updated 17 January after all companies have cut…

The last week’s very modest cut in energy prices have led some to question whether they were wrong to lock into a cheap fixed rate tariff to guard against future rises.

Yet these cuts need to be put in perpective. The typical bill for a standard tariff before cuts was £1,350, after it’s only dropped to £1,320 – this is very far from reversing the mammoth price hikes last year – and hundreds of pounds more expensive than the cheapest fixes that have been around for the last six months. So most who fixed should be sitting pretty.

So let’s go through it.

Fixing is about surety, not just about prices

Even before looking at the rates, which show substantial savings from fixing for many, it’s worth remembering that a fix is an insurance policy against price rises. It’s a peace of mind decision.

We always state that whether it’s right for you is about your attitude to risk, rather than guessing games. Fixing is primarily for those who cannot risk prices rising.

So it should be considered that even if prices drop substantially, which they haven’t, if you fixed for the right reasons (see my blog explaing how to decide whether to from last August: Is it worth fixing, if prices fall?) the risk of paying a little more is worth it against the damage of facing an unaffordable price hike.

It’s a bit like travel insurance, you buy it for protection, but you’re not annoyed with yourself if you don’t get ill on holiday. You bought it just in case, for peace of mind. So it’s done its job.

I must admit to being slightly surprised having seen news stories of people complaining that they fixed and now their price won’t drop.

Yet that’s the point of a fix. Your price didn’t rise during the huge hikes either.

Prices are still massively up

All the big six energy companies have cut EITHER gas OR electricity, none have cut both and only by about 5%. These are small cuts when you consider back in late summer and autumn energy firms raised BOTH gas and electricity prices by up to 19%.

The table below shows the real rise households are still facing overall

Price change since autumn 2011
Provider Average hikes in late 2011 2012 cuts Overall hike compared to summer 2011
Gas Electricity Gas Electricity Gas Electricity
British Gas 18% 16% 0% 5% 18% 10.2%
EDF 15.4% 4.5% 5% 0% 9.6% 4.5%
Eon 18.1% 11.4% 0% 6% 18.1% 4.7%
Npower 15.7% 7.2% 5% 0% 9.9% 7.2%
Scottish Power 19% 10% 5% 0% 13% 10%
SSE 18% 11% 3.8% 0% 13.5% 11%

If you got a cheap fix, prices would need to drop hugely to make it the worse option

The chart above shows the difference in typical prices from the three major suppliers to have cut prices compared to pre-hike costs last summer.

Provided you got a cheap fix the right way, by doing a comparison to find the right one, prices would need to seriously dive to make fixing on the cheap more expensive than a variable tariff bought last summer as prices are still much higher, even after this round of cuts.

To show the impact of this – take a trip back in time to last July’s weekly email after British Gas’d announced a rise

Energy Fixes, July 2011

It’s worth just looking at the table.

The cheapest fix then was £1,000/year for a typical home, the cheapest variable about £940/year. After the round of price cuts standard tariffs will be around £1,320 and the cheapest variable rate £1,030. In other words the cheapest fix then was cheaper than the lowest online variable rates you can get right now.

You’ve been saving a while with a cheap fix

The previous round of price hikes have been in place for up to five months, so anyone who took a cheap fix before that round has been saving big time over the past few months.

Not only that, but with the exception of British Gas, whose price cuts thankfully have immediate effect, the others haven’t hit yet. EDF is February, SSE bizarrely is late March. So there’s no gain over the expensive winter months.

What’s more, if you took a cheap fix when we first highlighted the option before the price hikes hit, many would have saved £150 over the pre-hike prices, which then jumped by 10-20%.

And given this week’s cuts shave about £20 or £30 off an annual energy bill, many will still have saved.

Even if you fixed since last autumn’s price rises, provided you were moving to the cheapest deals, unless in the rare circumstance you chose to move to a fix that cost more than you paid at the time (or your comparison showed fixing saved you £30 or less) you’re still better off compared to the post cut prices.

Of course if you choose to compare this not with what you were paying but to the very, very cheapest online deals that you could’ve moved to, which undercut the cheapest fixes, you may’ve had lower bills (the easy way to find out is do a quick comparison and see if its possible to save). Yet that is the cost of choosing the guarantee you still have that your rate won’t rise.

What will happen to prices, should you fix now?

For many on standard tariffs it is still possible to make substantial savings and lock-in to a fixed rate.

The decision to fix should be based on three factors:

- What is happening to prices: Currently, they’re creeping down, but wholesale prices are down further so there is room for more cuts. Yet that’s far from guaranteed, energy is a market and moves rapidly, so prices could still rise. So there’s no surety.

- Can I afford price rises? This is still by far the most important question. If you cannot afford the risk of prices going up – perhaps as then you’d simply not be able to make ends meet then protecting yourself from that is more important than guaranteeing you gain from any future price drops. This is all about your attitude.

- How cheap are fixes? Last summer, there were some uber-cheap deals around, undercutting even the cheapest variable rates. That isn’t quite the case now though those on standard tariffs can still save £100s by switching and fixing (see the Cheapest energy deals guide).


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The bank deal that makes 5,000% APR payday loans look cheap

The bank deal that makes 5,000% APR payday loans look cheap

The bank deal that makes 5,000% APR payday loans look cheap


Payday loans at 5,000% APR rightly shock many people. Yet high street banks have a product so expensive many would save by taking a payday loan, even at ridiculously high rates, instead. But as banks needn’t phrase it as an APR, they get to offer this product without the nasty brand damage.

As for what this extortionate charge is – well it’s simple, common and famous. It’s a bank charge for going beyond your pre-agreed overdraft limit.

How expensive are bank charges in comparison?


Clydesdale Bank charges £25 per day for going beyond your limit. I tried to calculate this in Excel as an APR, based on someone getting a £25 charge a day for being £1 over. The resultant interest rate was TOO LARGE FOR EXCEL TO CALCUATE % APR – which means it’s a ‘figure with way more than 300 zeros after it’ percent.  

So I had to take more standard charges like Nationwide’s £15 per item or Lloyds £5-10 per day depending on how overdrawn you are (see the Bank charges comparison guide for more). 

But even here, if you got a charge for being £1 over, it was too large to calculate so I went for the following scenario…

Go £5 over your overdraft at Lloyds and get charged £5. Based on payday loan calculation rules this would be roughly: 7,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% APR.

Or, to put it another way – compare the above costs to borrowing a range of amounts at an APR of 5,000%:

Amount
Day’s cost at 5,000% APR
£1
1p
£10
11p
£50
54p
£100
£1.08

As you can see, in comparison 5,000% APR is cheap.

So should everyone get payday loans to avoid bank charges?

Payday loans are a blight on society. The rates above rely on you only borrowing for a day – in reality that doesn’t happen with payday loans, they’re designed to be had for a week or a month, so you pay an upfront admin hit anyway. 

While some could save by using a payday loan instead of getting hit by bank charges, (though not every time) what’s far better is to avoid the borrowing all together or use a host of other solutions (we’ve a full ‘what to do instead of getting payday loans’ guide coming soon).

Even expensive credit cards, often rightly thought of as bad guys, compared to payday loans or bank charges are relatively cheap. The problem with them though is the easy availability of credit which means the debts can snowball.

Banks have cleverly avoided having to phrase their charges in a nasty way

My real point here is the fact that we don’t have any form of playing field to compare. Payday loans must list themselves as APRs due to regulations – that’s not a particularly sensible system in my view (see the evidence given to the Business Select Committee to explain why) but at least it scares people off. Yet banks get away with levying relatively higher charges without the stigma.  

Just image if Clydesdale had to write ‘Bank Charges APR too high to calculate’, or many others had to write ’7,500,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000% APR’. 

It wouldn’t exactly be good for their brand (and just think of the extra cost of advertising just to fit the figure in).

Are people going beyond their limit just taking cash that isn’t theirs?

This is an old chestnut whenever I talk about bank charges – and it’s nonsense. Banks have three limits within overdrafts:

  • The authorised overdraft – ie, no bank charges.
  • The unauthorised, paid overdraft – ie, there will be bank charges, but your cheques/DDs don’t bounce.
  • The unauthorised, unpaid overdraft – ie, there will be bank charges and your cheques/DDs do bounce.

These are just functions of a bank account – the banks don’t have to have a ‘paid’ overdraft, it was introduced to increase profitability and added over £3 billion a year to their coffers. Of course during the bank charges reclaiming height over a billion was paid back – and still now a few whose charges cause hardship can get some cash back. Yet overall it’s still immensely profitable.

Ps. Nerdy calculation note. Of course the APR calculation assumes that the charge would compound, which it doesn’t with bank charges – so the APR given is a farce. Yet it doesn’t with some payday lenders either – who don’t compound and cap the time – yet they must use the APR calculations that assume they do.

So I’m simply giving banks similar treatment in my calculations. What we need is a sensible clear measure for all – which is what I and many others have lobbied for.)

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Death of the ‘Do you do it from your bedroom?’ MSE design

We have a brand spanking new home page. Hopefully it’s a lot easier to navigate and looks much cleaner – though that’s for users to judge (do leave some feedback below, which we’ll use with tracking stats). Yet this is just the start and I wanted to explain why we changed it and what’s ahead.

I still do occasionally get people asking: "Do you do the site from your bedroom?" Well that’s how it started back in 2003 (see the history of MSE), but those days are long gone, there are 35 full time people including myself working for MoneySavingExpert.com (if you’re wondering how, see how this site is financed).

We’re a top 100 UK website, with over 10 million unique users (different people in the UK using the site) each month, and while I hope the quality of the content and research is up to scratch – the design still has somewhat of a homemade feel.

This has always been deliberate. When reworking the site in the past, I’ve always been protective of the scattergun, cluttered feel – not wanting us to look corporate, to impart the fighting for consumer philosophy and generate an esprit de corps amongst users.

In fact, back in 2006, I pulled a redesign two days before launch – almost causing mutiny at MSE Towers – because all the feedback I got was: "It looks good, very corporate and professional" (see my redesign blog from back then for a view).

Yet I now think the web has changed – even many bedroom sites nowadays are much more professional, and we’ve changed. We are now a very established site, our users know what we stand for, so it can cope with a redesign making it look more professional without it hitting the all-important ‘fighting for consumers’ stance – especially if that makes it easier for people to find the info.

So while we’re still a personal site (not just me anymore though), I hope we retain that element of a professional media site, not a business one.

How the home page has changed

You can see the various looks over the years here…

> Pre-launch site 2002 (more a personal homepage really)
> The first MSE site 2003
> MSE 2005 – minor changes
> MSE 2007 – getting more green
> MSE 2008 – after the last major redesign

View New Home Page View Old Home Page

The new home page isn’t the final version, but as January’s a busy month and we had something we believe is a lot better than the old one, we decided to get it out and then prune it live. Congrats to MSE Lawrence, Neil and Richard, plus Adam and Mark amongst others for doing some brilliant work on it.

Yet this is just the start. We know lots of you love MoneySavingExpert, but we get constant complaints that "it’s too busy" and "I can’t find what I want" and that’s the real aim here.

The running order of the redesign

So as for what we’re planning to do …

  • New masthead

    This is still a work in progress (pic of me is far too big and not one I like either), yet the colour scheme and general look is roughly along the lines I want. As you can probably tell, the new home page was designed to have this masthead atop it – and once it’s there, I think the whole thing will all fit together.

  • Much improved main site search – done


    Try a search (top right of each page), we changed it a few weeks ago. Hopefully the results now bring what you hope for. It’s using back-end Google technology so should be more intuitive for most people. Do let me know what you think.

  • Changing the section categorisation


    Some of the sections are spot-on, for example ‘cards and loans’ does what it says on the tin. Yet a few, like ‘Income and Family’ aren’t popular as they’re not too intuitive and it means people miss out on some valuable info. So we’re going to look at our categorisations and titles to try and improve this.

  • Sprucing up the drop-down menu

    Hover over the section tabs at the top of every page, and you get a pop-up drop down menu. A huge proportion of users navigate the site this way. The current design was our first try, before we understood how people use them. Now we think we can get more in, but looking less cluttered and easier to understand.

  • Bespoke section pages for each subject

    Currently each of the actual section pages comes from our template, with minimal work to it. We hope to redo them going forward, more in the vein of the new home page, but each being specifically designed depending on the content.

  • Right hand side browse bar spruce


    The top bar of the site is for navigation – the right hand side for browsing and trying to get people to navigate across the site (don’t look on this page, go to the forum or a normal article). Some of the boxes in there work.

  • Multi-platform accessibility (incl. mobiles)

    The site isn’t currently awful on mobiles, but it could be better and as we go forward we’ll be building to try and make it work for mobiles and tablets. Many have asked for an app, and it’s something we’re looking at, though for a site the size of MSE it’s still conceptually difficult to work out how that’d work.

Those are the main ones, we’ll also be taking a look at the forum, though that was done more recently so isn’t as high up on the agenda.

Do let me know what you think of the home page and any suggestions you have below.


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(Sorry) Have a great weekend! The 10 top Friday funnies EVER

Top 10 Friday funnies EVER

Every Friday on my Facebook page, I do a funny. Well when I say funny, more of a terrible, tumbleweeding, shaggy dog of a pun. Yet for some bizarre reason, if I ever miss it, hoards of Facebookers – mostly women I may add – virtually attack me, demanding their weekly groan (oh, err missus).

For newbies, the format’s mind-numbingly consistent. A pun turned into a semi-plausible story. The true joy though is the comments of those who forget it’s Friday and miss that it’s a joke. They often get outraged – even though it’s always obvious as I sign off with: “(sorry). Have a great weekend.”

So as it’s the last Friday of 2011, here’s a final Friday funny treat (and if you can cope do join my Facebook page to get a new one each week).

The top ten Friday funnies ever (by number of likes)

In reverse order, just for suspense you understand…

10. Nasty! Chatting to Johnny Maitland (Tonight & former House of Horrors presenter), he told me once, when hidden camera filming a dodgy gas installer, they watched agog as he peed in the kitchen sink, then took the small family dog & "interfered" with it! They called the police who arrested him. Yet even with footage, the police couldn’t prosecute – apparently he was Corgi-registered!!! (sorry) Have a great weekend

9. Bit disturbed by the police cordon on my local high street. There’s a speciality organic shop there known for large vats you use a huge scoop to get goods out of. An officer told me one of the staff was found dead this morning, head first in a vat of muesli, having effectively drowned in it. They think she was pulled under by a strong current and worse, it,s happened before, it’s a cereal killing. (sorry) Have a great weekend.

8. This is NOT a bargain! Went to this new place that’s trying to compete as a cheaper version of London zoo, that wanted listing on our summer holiday deals page. However when I got there there, outrageously all the cages were empty except for one which just had a small dog in it – it was a Shih-tzu! (sorry) Have a great weekend

7. Bumped into Scott Miller today, the Australian vet who does ITV’s This Morning & often focuses on exotic animals. Was surprised to hear today his phone’s been urgently ringing off the hook asking him to go back asap – even the Oz PM called. I couldn’t quite understand why but then it became clear, he’s the only Aussie who knows how to hold a bat properly! (sorry & YAY ENGLAND) have a great weekend – this was just after the ashes victor

6. Just been nastily insulted at my local supermarket. I was returning a lettuce from two days ago. It’d looked good but had two large caterpillars in it. The manager said, "just take them out and eat it. I know who you are, you probably put them in yourself to get a story." I was fuming: "how dare you, I keep getting dodgy stock from your store, this was just the tip of the iceberg!" (sorry) Have a great Easter .

5. It’s embarrassing, but people need to know this. All my dad’s side blood relations have been struck down at the same time with rather serious diarrhea. We’re all over the world: London (me), Manchester, New Jersey & Miami. No other connection than we’re all called Lewis. We rumbled it after dad talked to my uncle. The doctor’s now confirmed diarrhea is hereditary – it runs in the jeans. (sorry) have a great weekend.

4. I’m in a state of shock with the horrendous behaviour of some of my team today. Just got back to MSE Towers from Radio 2 to find all the doors smashed in and absolutely everything has been nicked. It truly is a shocking disgrace – where’s the respect? What is it with the modern generation – what kind of person does that to an Advent Calender! (Sorry) Have a great weekend – done the first weekend in Dec

3. Lost my rag yesterday! Took my niece to a petting zoo at the local park, there was a lovely African grey parrot, which she started tickling on the tummy. An attendant came up and barked really nastily that she should "only stroke it on the back". I was fuming, and barked back: How on Earth could she be expected to know that, why shout?" It really is polly-tickle correctness gone mad! (sorry) Have a great weekend.

2. What the TV coverage DIDN’T show! Just heard from a royal wedding reporter mate that the director was asked to avoid a disturbance near Hyde Park where, during the wedding, a man was driving a large tractor up and down and yelling through a megaphone, "the end of the world is upon us. The end of the world is nigh!" The police arrested him eventually – turns out it was just Farmer Geddon. (sorry) Have a wonderful weekend

And the most liked…

1. I’m a little shaken. Just driven to a meeting, while parking there was a BANG & the car shook. I got out & to find I’d dislodged a slab of tarmac onto the pavement. As I was by a pub I thought I’d go in to calm down. Then I worried about people tripping, so I hefted the slab up and took it in with me, then said to the barman "I’ll have one for me & one for the road" (sorry) Have a great weekend.

Were the ‘likes’ right? Are these the crème de la crème, or are they the crème at the bottom of the barrel? Your thoughts and even your attempts welcome below – note any good ones WILL be stolen.


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Chart-Porn: my top 10 most read blogs of 2011

Top 10 most read blogs of 2011

We’re nearing the year end, it’s a time for reflection – to look back and consider the past… who am I kidding, this is just an excuse for a bit of chart-porn.  It’s a chance for me to dig through some statistics and produce a table. Woo hoo…

So here’s my top ten most read blogs in 2011…

Most read blogs written in 2011

Two poor ickle blogs should really have been in the 2011 top ten, yet they were buffeted out by two biggies written in prior years. Therefore, for a chart of the top 10 most read blogs written this year, exclude number 7 and number 9 from the list above and add in.

Related Past Blogs

Do let me know which you remember most of these, it may help me write better ones in the future…


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Unearthed video of my Comedy Characters – did I really do that?

Martin 'Costin' Powers

I can’t quite believe they’re me – especially the ‘Costin Powers’ (watch it yourself below). All of these sketches were filmed in 2000-2001 as part of my ‘Deal of the Day’ piece on the then little watched, and now long defunct, Simply Money TV. I can’t blame anyone else for them, I had to research, present, write, occasionally sing and produce them on my own.

It’s strange to look back at this, simply Money was my first TV gig. The Deal of the Day programme was my big break and literally where I became the MSE (literally see my 10 years ago I became the Money Saving Expert blog). Back then my time treading the boards as an amateur stand-up comic was still a fresh memory, so I tried to mix my two passions. 

The characters were cheesy and kitsch, yet I’ve always believed that my subject is boring for many people, so if I’m not excited and interested in it – I can’t expect others to be.  I hope that passion comes across even now, but then my route was via the sketches. Many of the small but loyal audience used to tell me they eagerly awaited ‘what nonsense I’d do next’, and the sketches got sillier and sillier.

I suppose in honesty I miss it somewhat. Though the thought of delivering one five days a week horrifies me now. Plus I’m not sure it’d be appropriate alongside campaigning on financial education, bank charges, PPI, or mental health and debts. Yet their shadow does live on a touch in the bits of silliness I try and throw into my ITV Lorraine films each Thursday.

If you’re wondering how this was ‘unearthed’, that’s stretching it somewhat. It has always been on the site, albeit buried and in a tiny little video. I happened across it a few weeks ago, and transferred it onto YouTube. So as it’s Christmas, here goes.

I suspect many of you scrolled straight down to the video, you can watch it here or full screen via the YouTube links

The Austin Powers one is the bit that still pains me the most to watch (so no doubt it’s the one my team will use as the picture at the top when they upload this blog!) 

My favourites are Laurel & Hardy, Unbeatibal, Lecture and Brief Beancounter right at the end – and not only cos I got a snog (it was pre Mrs MSE).  Let me know what you think.


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Read letters from blind children to Santa

Read letters from blind children to Santa

Read letters from blind children to Santa

This blog is for all the soppy gits (like me) out there. Sit back and prepare for some bitter-sweet Christmas joy. The wonderful RNIB kindly sent us these beautiful messages as a thank you for supporting their special braille and other visually impaired-friendly letters within our Free letters from Santa guide. 

Of course they don’t do this alone, they arrange with the big beardy chap to have one of his best elves there to help ferry the messages. However, they did get a sneaky peek at some of them, and as it’s Christmas week, they’ve given their kind permission to share some of these beautiful notes with you – real evidence of the great work this needed charity does…

Names and minor details have been changed for privacy.

 

From Jenny aged 7.

Dear Santa Claus, Hello, my name is Jenny and I am 7 years old. I have a sister called Layla who has just turned 3. My Mummy forgot to post my letter to you because we had to go to London for my hospital appointments last week! I am trying very hard to be a good girl and I was really really brave when I went to hospital. For Christmas please may I have a new chair and TV so I can watch the TV with my sister. I really like Hello Kitty and would love to be given anything that is Hello Kitty! My Sister would love a talking Peppa Pig, because Peppa Pig makes her laugh. I hope you and Mrs Claus have lots of fun at Christmas too. I am very excited that it is nearly Christmas! Love Jenny"

From Abigail aged 6.

Dear Santa, I’m a 6 year old girl and my biggest wish is that I could see like the rest of my family. I lost my vision, most of it, I learn to read Braille. My Mum writes this letter for me. I know you can’t give me my vision back, no one can. If you send me a letter back can you write it in Grade 1 Braille please. I wish for Christmas: A dolly for me and my little sister, a bike, cars for my little brother, DV for my big sister, a book for my teachers, snow for my Mum as she loves Christmas. Thank you Santa, with love Abigail."

Christmas presents

Christmas presents

From Sally aged 4.

Dear Father christmas. Merry christmas to you. I know you are very busy at this time of year, so I hope you are looking after yourself. My name is Sally. I am partially sighted and deaf and I also have severe cerebal palsy. So please can you reply to my letter in audio CD because my hearing is a bit better than my seeing and also i dont know how to read braille yet, but i do know some sign language. I am getting a new baby brother and sister for Christmas this year, so I am very excited. I dont know what toys i would like for Christmas, as I cannot play with any because I cannot hold them.  I do like to look at flashing lights though and I like pretty clothes. Anyway, I hope you have a very nice Christmas with Mother Christmas and that Rudolph and all the other reindeers and all of you elves also have a nice time"

From Francesca aged 8.

How are you today? Hope you are very well. Are you brushing your teeth and having your lunch? When are you coming to visit? Please can you send me a CD letter? Please can I have a woolly glove and a talking computer to listen to classical music and come chocolate to make my mum happy. Your friend Francesca"

From Ben aged 9.

How are your elves? Which elf reads the Braille to you? I have been so good all year. I have helped someone when they have fallen over. I’ve been good at home. And I would really like a pair of rugby boots and a kicking tee for my rugby and I would like a bus, please. Thank you very much. I hope you have a nice Christmas. From Ben"

From Paul aged 9.

Hi Santa, I have bad eyes, and am visually impaired, and you send me a letter every year, and I get so happy and excited to receive them, and they really make my christmas very special :) I was born with cataracts, and have had 4 operations, I also have glaucoma, and wear varifocal glasses. My mum calls me he bionic boy and says I’m like astro boy because I have artificial lens implants in my eyes. For christmas I have asked for lots and lots haha, I really want WWE wrestling figures, lego, moshi monsters, dvd’s, games, transformers, star wars toys, spongebob toys, football cards, harry potter toys, toy story toys and books. I would like my letter in large print (anything over font size16), or on a audio C.D in English and Welsh please :) Thankyou Santa :) "

Christmas tree

Christmas tree

From Aimee aged 11.

Dear Santa, My name is Aimee and I am 11 years old and have complex disabilities but I love my mummy and my little just 7 years old brother Benji. I am getting ready for my school concert this friday 9 December which is always a surprise for mummy, Auntie Jane and Nan, who are coming to see me. Benji cannot come as he is at his school. I think they come for the mince pies and coffee too. I love Hannah Montana dvds and listen to them happily until my little brother decides to chat and give me hugs in my wheelchair, so then I sigh and have to watch it all over again. I also love Shrek which we all watch together. Any music can make me smile. I have been very good this year as I haven’t been in hospital as much as before. Happy Christmas Santa and love to all the elves and reindeer. Love from Aimee"

For Eleanor age 7, from her sister.

My sister Eleanor is registered blind but on top of this she has other problems which means she can’t communicate properly. She cannot speak or write but I know that she would love a audio cd from Santa as she loves to listen especially to other voices. So on her behalf I would like to ask for a letter from Santa as this is what any other 7 year old would want."

From Duncan aged 5.

Dear Santa, my name is Duncan and I am 5 years old. My movement is limited and I can only see shadows. In my class I have been doing a story about a little girl and her reindeer so I have painted one for you. I have been a very good boy this year and would like any type of UV light as other types of light can make me poorly. Thank you and merry Christmas, love Duncan xxx"

 

Ok, well I think I must be allergic to these letters and my eyes seem to have gone very wet after reading them. There were many more that were equally as moving. 

Huge tribute to the work of the RNIB and its elves for putting joy into the lives of those children.

And wishing everyone a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, joy in whatever you’re celebrating and season’s greetings.


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The MSE Christmas pub quiz 2011 results

MSE pub quiz - can you beat us?

Last week I challenged you to the pub quiz I’d given the MSE team at our Christmas party. Now as promised, it’s time for the answers…(and as in all good pub quiz tradition, I of course expect you to argue).

Spoiler alert! If you want to have a go at the quiz before seeing the answers, see the MSE Christmas pub quiz 2011 blog.

Answers are in red.

 

 

 

SCROLL DOWN FOR THE ANSWERS.

 

 

 

Martin’s round
(these had to be questions I could answer without needing to look it up)

1.How many points for a ‘K’ in Scrabble? Five
2. What is the name of the flatmate’s Jewish friend in the Big Bang Theory (1 point for first name, and another for last name)? Howard Wallowitz.
3. Which new three letter word starting ‘QI’ was introduced in Scrabble last year? QIN.
4. What word does Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory say when he is doing a practical joke? Clue: I also have a t-shirt with it on. Bazinga.
5. In the official Scrabble dictionary which number of letters has the most words, ie, 2 letter words, 3 letter words, 4 letter words etc.? 9 letter words.
6. If you score three under par in golf, what’s it called? Either a bloody miracle or an albatross.
7. What’s the highest Scrabble score you could get at the end of the game if you’ve only an ‘I’ and a ‘Q’ left, by connecting it with the word ‘BIFF’ anywhere on the board except a treble word score? Sixty-seven.
8. In the towns Northwich, Middlewich and Nantwich what does the ‘wich’ bit indicate? It means it was a brine or salt mining town.
9. Create the longest allowable Scrabble word possible from the following letters ‘euouae’. Euouae (one of the teams got it in the MSE Towers quiz just by writing the letters down as they were read out and not actually having a clue what the answer was).
10. What’s the first name of Superman’s birth mother? Clue: this is the ‘Martin round’. Lara (aka Mrs MSE).

The general knowledge round

1. What is the highest capital city in the world? La Paz, Bolivia.
2. In sport, what year did the English Football Premier League begin? 1992.
3. What does html stand for? Hyper Text Markup Language.
4. This year on English language world Twitter, what was the number one world news story? Mubarak’s resignation.
5. How many sides does a heptagon have? And for a bonus point what is a dodecahedron? Seven (and twelve edges for the bonus).
6. There are four US states that begin with ‘I’, how many can you name (4 pointer)? Indiana, Iowa, Idaho, Illinois.
7. Which drinks company uses a bat as its registered trademark? Bacardi.
8. This year on Twitter, what was the number one #hashtag? #Egypt.
9. Can you name all the planets in the solar system? 1 point for each. (Note: for clarification, if there’s any argument over what is a planet, this is based on the view of the world’s leading physicist Dr. Sheldon Cooper (see Round 1)). Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto.
10. What colours are the five Olympic rings (5 pointer)? Red, blue, yellow, green, black.

The picture round

1. Gavin & Stacey
2. Elf
3. White Christmas
4. National Lampoons Christmas Vacation
5. The Holiday
6. The Royal Family
7. The Polar Express
8. It’s A Wonderful Life
9. Dr Who
10. Love Actually
11. Miracle on 34th Street
12. How The Grinch Stole Christmas

How did you do?


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The financial education debate – in full

The financial education debate – in full

The financial education debate – in full

Below is a cut and paste of the Hansard transcript of last week’s debate (source: Parliament). For those wanting a quick summary see my financial education debate – who said what blog, as the transcript below came from five hours of debate.

You can also watch a video of the session.

Read the full transcript

Parliamentary participation – I almost got myself kicked out

Parliamentary participation – I almost got myself kicked out

Parliamentary participation – I almost got myself kicked out

Yesterday was a privilege. I blogged earlier on the important meat of the financial education debate in the Commons. Yet I wanted to jot some notes down about the experience too.

I’ve been to view the Commons debating before, but this felt different. Justin Tomlinson MP, who I’ve been working on this with for around a year, was proposing the motion to get financial education on the curriculum on the back of the e-petition. He’d arranged that I could sit in the part of the public gallery not separated by the security glass screen.

As that’s positioned directly above some of the MPs, it feels like you’re within the theatre and I was surprised to find myself receiving nods of welcome from some members in the chamber, and later the Minister. This left me with warring instincts. Of course I was there as a passive audience member, but the atmosphere does suck you in to want to take part.

Within their speeches, the MPs were again very kind about MSE and my involvement, and more importantly the real public swell of opinion behind the 100,000 signatures. John Redwood came in specifically to note that he’d received so many letters from constituents (go MoneySavers!) that he wanted to note his support.

The debate itself is a fantastic free show – I highly recommend it. As well as the serious stuff, the MPs’ good natured bickering and banter is hilarious. The highlight was a quote-off with members intervening to swap relevant phrases from Dickens, Shakespeare and Benjamin Franklin (though I suspect it’s a ‘you had to be there’).

The most perverse moments were when MPs quoted me (though of course for facts not eloquence). At one point the Shadow Education Minister Kevin Brennan quoted my "for twenty years we’ve educated out youth into debt when they go to university but never educated them about debt," only to be cut-off by another MP mentioning my explanation of student finance on the Politics Show a few weeks ago.

It ain’t easy not to speak

The Financial Education in Schools campaign is my passion and I’ve been campaigning on it for years, so I must admit when questions were flung at the proposing MPs, it was all I could do to stop myself from yelling out an answer (I’m not that good at sitting for five hours without saying anything, as those who’ve seen my broadcasts will attest).

This peaked as Mark Garnier said something akin to "What we need to do is use real questions such as if you borrow £125, at 29% interest over 6 months, what would it be?  Now I’m not Martin Lewis, just a former investment banker, so I’m not going to approach that one".

At which point Andrew Bingham raised a ‘go on then, can you?’ eyebrow at me. Not good when you’re soemone as competitive as me, sitting by yourself with no one to talk to. I was about to answer when I remembered hours earlier I’d been told that it was important not to speak in that gallery, so slammed my jaw shut. 

I later asked the Sergeant at Arms who was stationed by me (each section of the gallery has its own) what would’ve happened if I had answered. His answer "I’m afraid I would’ve needed to escort you off the premises sir."


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Financial education in the House of Commons – who said what

Financial education in the House of Commons – who said what

Financial education in the House of Commons – who said what

Proof 100,000 people can make a difference. Yesterday I spent five hours in the gallery of the House of Commons on the back of the e-petition many of you signed about putting financial education on the national curriculum. Time and time again the MPs referred to the signatures and the copious letters MoneySavers had written and it seemed to have impressed.

The key outcome was that the Education Minister Nick Gibb sat through the debate, listened and made the important commitment that the APPG Financial Education Report would be considered as part of the National Curriculum review. While this doesn’t guarantee anything it’s a big step forward in treating it seriously. 

I must admit to being impressed at the quality of the debate by the small but passionate group of MPs who were there for the debate (the problem with there only being a one line whip and a by-election). In many ways this is when parliament impresses, both sides of the house discussing together in a non-adversarial way and making many key points.

I hope to be able to get the text of the debate from Hansard and publish that here, but I thought I’d put the key points here and some of the most important and funniest quotes I managed to scribble down (no laptops allowed so it wasn’t easy).

One shocking stat that came up during the enquiry was that misunderstanding of basic concepts of APR are so rife, some students were even boasting about who had the highest APR loans – thinking that this made them better!

It’s worth noting there were a huge number of (well deserved) plaudits for Justin Tomlinson MP who chairs the all party parliamentary group and proposed the motion, and Andrew Percy MP who chaired the report writing committee.

Please forgive the scrappy nature of these notes
.

Justin Tomlinson MP – proposing the motion

Justin went through the history of All Party Parliamentary Group, the involvement of MSE and PFEG.

"I asked a question on this in Parliament and was approached by the Personal Finance Education Group who said, we’ve thirty more questions you can ask if you like.  I put those forward and was then approached by Martin Lewis who said, ‘you’ve asked some really pertinent questions can we speak about this.’  

"After that the three of us got together and worked out we need to do something more. And with the subtle persuasion of MoneySavingExpert’s six million email recipients we managed to get over 200 MPs on board and form the new All Party Parliamentary Group"

He then outlined the main report proposals, which due to my lack of note taking speed I’m reproducing here from the report’s summary…

• Personal finance education should be a compulsory part of every school’s curriculum.

• Resources produced by outside organisations and visits of providers to schools should be available
and accessible if considered helpful by teachers and quality marked by a trusted body.

• Primary teachers should build upon their teaching of basic money and mathematics skills from
an early age across the curriculum in preparation for secondary education.

• We welcome the Government’s current proposal to increase the minimum requirement of
mathematics GCSE to grade B for primary school teachers and encourage that it should be
adopted.

• It would be advantageous to use the opportunity of training days to refresh the mathematics skills
of primary school teachers, although we respect the right of the schools to provide training in a
way they feel is appropriate.

• Personal finance education should be taught cross-curricular in mathematics and PSHE secondary education
with the financial numeracy aspect of personal finance education situated in mathematics and
subjective aspects taught in PSHE education. It should be packaged in an obvious and clear way
to young people.

• Personal finance elements of maths should be clearly highlighted to emphasise how they relate
to real life decisions. If viable, the Government should implement the Smith Report and Maths
Review’s recommendation for the twin GCSEs: ‘Application of Mathematics’ and ‘Methods in
Mathematics’ to improve financial numeracy and ensure it is examined.

• PSHE education should be clearly defined into four separate strands, one of which should be
personal finance. Through reworking the PSHE education syllabus, more focused training and
assessment can be developed.

• A school coordinator, or ‘Champion’, should be appointed in each school, preferably from the
Senior Leadership Team. This ‘Champion’ should be given responsibility for ensuring that outcomes
are achieved across maths and PSHE education, ensuring there is a clear link between the
elements of personal finance taught in mathematics and PSHE education and for sourcing
resources.

The stat that really stood out on this was that "91% of people in financial difficulty think had they been better educated, they would’ve had less issues."

Jenny Chapman MP – seconding the motion

"Even more people are coming to surgeries with financial problems than ever before."

"We must think about the teacher training needed to get this to work, many teachers say they lack the confidence in this subject."

"It should be examined because it gives a sharper focus.  As one head teacher said in giving evidence ‘Unless you examine it, it won’t happen.’"

Nick Gibb MP – Education Minister responding

"Thank you for the balanced and passionate APPG report and the powerful advocacy from Justin, Andrew and Martin Lewis. The government is involved in two reviews; the National Curriculum and PSHE. The APPG report gives good insights and recommendations and we will look at it as part of the National Curriculum Review.  It is an important report – grounded in knowledge and data. There is huge enthusiasm for this. We will give careful consideration to it and all its recommendations."

"Young people are growing up in a materialistic world where they are not truly prepared." 

He then was especially impressed with the example calculations in the report that were real mathematics – this is a big part of government policy, the aim to improve numeracy skills. 

There were many interventions by MPs explaining that they thought the introduction of financial numeracy in maths would actually benefit maths itself, as with it being more tangible a subject it should retain kids’ interest better.

The outstanding quote for me – Yvonne Fovargue MP

Perhaps the one quote that stood out for me most, was from the always worth listening to Yvonne Fovargue MP. She ran a Citizens Advice bureau for ten years and when it comes to debt and money issues, she really knows what she’s talking about.

"When I ran a financial education project at my bureau, one of the side effects was an rapid increase in the number of parents who came seeking debt help. It seemed that the children were coming home and discussing the subject and it helped the parents realise there’s a problem. So if we do this we need to ensure there are enough debt help resources to make this work."

In itself this proves that financial education works, not just for the future but has an immediate beneficial impact on families too. It’s a great way to get the information out there. This echoes my own experiences of teaching the teen cash class in schools – where the kids went home and could save their parents money and in one case even took over the family budget.

Andrew Percy MP – Chair of the APPG report

A hilarious blockbuster opening from Andrew: "I’d promised the minister that unless he took the report seriously I would douse myself with petrol and set myself alight. Thankfully he’s here so that’s not needed. This is especially important because considering the current prices I couldn’t afford the petrol."

Andrew then explained that he was useless with money, had been in debt during his prior career as a teacher (he’s part of the new intake of MPs) and was still paying it off, and had only just got on the housing ladder. 

"I’m extremely proud of having been in the top set in maths in my inner city comprehensive and managed to get a grade C in maths GCSE, but I am still incapable of working out interest and APR."

He then explained that he thought this was perhaps the most important thing he’d contributed to since coming to Parliament. In a witty exchange he explained how he and Justin Tomlinson MP were the perfect pair to be doing this, as Justin (who he also shares a flat with when at Parliament) is extremely financially numerate (many good natured cat calls of ‘tight’), whereas he simply doesn’t understand how personal finance works.

He then made an eloquent case for how it’s important that we don’t assume even clever people should be able to understand finance without education before setting out the mechanics of how the APPG’s recommendations will work. His most important point was that this should be "teacher led", but should work within the current curriculum within maths and PSHE.

Many MPs on both sides mentioned their support for a double GCSE maths, (similar to there being English Literature and English Language) one in applied maths where financial numeracy would fit in and one in more theoretical maths. He also discussed the partial banning of calculators in primary schools to help develop better mental arithmetic.

He believes that the plans would not only help financial education but that it should encourage better basic numeracy. Plus, it would also help views of PSHE as if that’s there to support maths, it gives it more credibility. Then some stats:

"At 17 half of the people surveyed had already been in debt. 70% of 18 to 24 year olds were in debt. 90% of parents never discussed with their teens how to spend. The lack of financial education is costing £250m a year in bank charges alone.

The best of the rest

At this point I need to apologise to the rest of the MPs. With no short hand and no laptop my RSI meant two hours worth of notes were enough for me. So here’s some of the other contributions to the best of my recollection.

The shadow education minister Kevin Brennan MP strongly supported the concept – though questioned how it would be possible to make it compulsory considering the Government devolving responsibility to individual schools through academy and free school schemes.

Congleton MP Fiona Bruce has long been a supporter of financial education and spoke about it a year ago. She explained how it was being done in 20 other countries even including Zambia and how important it was that the UK didn’t fall behind.

Big political beast John Redwood MP made an intervention at one point just to say something like: "I want to congratulate my colleagues on this debate. I have had emails from three constituents urging me to attend and I want to express my support for this important issue."  I think that’s proof that MoneySavers emails to MPs had the right effect.

Andrew Bingham MP made a detailed speech. He was passionate on the subject of life skills having even once authored a free e-book to try and guide students when they stated uni. The most popular bit of it was the budget planner (see MSE’s free budget planner here).

While he accepted financial education wasn’t a cure, he said it should enable people to assess if something is a good deal for them and what the total cost is. "Education needs to move forward to protect us in our ever more dense financial jungle."

Eric Ollerenshaw MP was another former teacher supporting the concept (and another one who admitted he wasn’t much cop with cash). "I can’t remember ever being taught anything about financial education at school. I can’t remember anyone teaching financial education in my 27 years as a teacher. It needs to be included within teacher training."

Mark Garnier MP – a thorough speech from a former investment banker and member of Treasury Select Committee and the APPG enquiry committee. His main focus was how Financial Education could solve the problem of irresponsible lending to irresponsible borrowers. As someone who works on financial regulation, his view is education is a better and cheaper solution helping people make more informed choices.

Then Damian Hinds MP who was perhaps the only speaker who had any objections – though again supporting the concept in general. His view was that it wouldn’t work being taught as PSHE as kids don’t take it seriously and while it shouldn’t be on the curriculum he strongly supports it as part of maths – but big picture skills rather than specifics.

He had two main worries, the first that if the subject goes too much into products, by the time the kids are old most of that info will be out of date. He gave examples of endowment mortgages and cheques as things that are now no longer relevant. The second, the fact that he worries that talking too much about debt makes it ubiquitous and may actually encourage people more than prevent.

Andrew Percy intervened to explain that while big picture skills are there, teaching about how current issues work is a great way to learn about the future.

Duncan Hames MP spoke about Further Education colleges and the provision there. He heads up the APPG’s Further Education unit and they are taking evidence for a separate report on the provision there. He discussed how having it in schools would help the provision in colleges. Yet the problem in colleges is that just having it isn’t enough – the broad breadth of the curriculum there makes it a real challenge to get the provision where it works.

Oliver Heald MP spoke about the need for pension education too, though thankfully only for secondary schools. He is a member of the work and pensions select committee and talked about the need to educate people to be able to make choices when auto-enrolment comes and how financial education could help play a crucial role in that.

Simon Hughes MP who is also the higher education tsar talked about the important not just of educating for the medium and long term with debt, gas and electricity type issues, but of the instant need for short term info on apprenticeships, student finance and the immediate options for those aged 16 and above.

I do hope I haven’t missed anyone out  (I’m pretty sure I have – so I’m really sorry) or misrepresented anyone. Hopefully when we publish the full Hansard transcript that’ll make up for it. I’d like to thank the MPs for listening and taking seriously the views of the 100,000 people who signed the petition. Fingers crossed this is the start of actually getting this in schools.

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What do I do if my MP is the Speaker?

What do I do if my MP is the Speaker?

What do I do if my MP is the Speaker?

I was slightly stumped by this question yesterday. I had tweeted asking people to take 2 minutes to write to their MP to encourage them to attend the financial education debate in the Commons this Thursday, on the back of the e-petition hitting 100,000 signatures.

This was one of the first replies I received and it got me thinking. For those who don’t know, the Speaker of the House of Commons is currently John Bercow, who is the presiding officer of the chamber, and a sitting MP. By convention the role is non-partisan and the Speaker never votes or takes sides in any debates.   

While of course this is a good idea for the man having to referee our heavily adversarial system – where does it leave constituents? They have a Member of Parliament they can’t lobby or push to engage in politics, effectively disenfranchising them from big political activity. Of course I suspect he still acts as a constituency MP dealing with individual issues, but not political ones.

While I love the history of our Parliament and the long established traditions, this is one of the areas where I think the anachronistic system needs a bit of tweaking. I often wonder what it must be like to live in a sitting PM’s constituency too – does he still do weekly surgeries? Or do you effectively lose a constituency MP?

I’d be interested in your thoughts.


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The MSE Christmas pub quiz 2011…can you beat the team?

MSE pub quiz - can you beat us?

How good’s your general knowledge? Can you beat the MSE Team? Last Friday was the MSE Towers’ Christmas party and quiz, so now I want to invite you to take part too and see how you do…

There was hair being pulled out, confusion, befuddlement and some painful moments, and that was just MSE Darren and I writing the quiz questions. There were six rounds in total, but here I’ve picked out just three. It’s one point per correct answer (unless stated) and NO GOOGLING! (I will blog the answers next Monday).

Martin’s round
(these must be questions I can answer without needing to look it up)

    1.How many points for a ‘K’ in Scrabble?
    2. What is the name of the flatmate’s jewish friend in the Big Bang Theory (1 point for first name, and another for last name)?
    3. Which new three letter word starting ‘QI’ was introduced in Scrabble last year?
    4. What word does Sheldon from the Big Bang Theory say when he is doing a practical joke? Clue: I also have a t-shirt with it on.
    5. In the official Scrabble dictionary which number of letters has the most words, ie, 2 letter words, 3 letter words, 4 letter words etc.?
    6. If you score three under par in golf, what’s it called?
    7. What’s the highest Scrabble score you could get at the end of the game if you’ve only an ‘I’ and a ‘Q’ left, by connecting it with the word ‘BIFF’ anywhere on the board except a treble word score?
    8. In the towns Northwich, Middlewich and Nantwich what does the ‘wich’ bit indicate?
    9. Create the longest allowable Scrabble word possible from the following letters ‘euouae’.
    10. What’s the first name of Superman’s birth mother? Clue: this is the ‘Martin round’.

The general knowledge round

    1. What is the highest capital city in the world?
    2. In sport, what year did the English Football Premier League begin?
    3. What does html stand for?
    4. This year on English language world Twitter, what was the number one world news story?
    5. How many sides does a heptagon have? And for a bonus point what is a dodecahedron?
    6. There are four US states that begin with ‘I’, how many can you name (4 pointer)?
    7. Which drinks company uses a bat as its registered trademark?
    8. This year on Twitter, what was the number one #hashtag?
    9. Can you name all the planets in the solar system? 1 point for each. (Note: for clarification, if there’s any argument over what is a planet, this is based on the view of the world’s leading physicist Dr. Sheldon Cooper (see Round 1)).
    10. What colours are the five Olympic rings (5 pointer)?

The picture round

Picture round

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